https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-x6quw-11aa070

https://anchor.fm/theblackfuturist/episodes/Discussing-Prison-Abolition-with-Amber-Crowder--and-Tesla-Model-3-Test-Drive-e153uoq

Imagine going through life, making it to adulthood never having any encounters with law enforcement let alone a criminal record, and all...